Friday, April 15, 2011

WWJD -What Would Jamyhawk Do?

$22 buy in. 152 players and we are down to final 3. I'm in 2nd place. Ferbs has been playing loose and I don't think he's a very good player. He has a 57 rating on sharkscope. TRUE_KASPER seems to be a decent player.

PokerStars Game #60849766430: Tournament #383444651, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIII (1000/2000) - 2011/04/15 1:49:53 CT [2011/04/15 2:49:53 ET]
Table '383444651 4' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: ferbs2 (236016 in chips)
Seat 4: TRUE_KASPER (96634 in chips)
Seat 5: jamyhawk (123350 in chips)
ferbs2: posts the ante 400
TRUE_KASPER: posts the ante 400
jamyhawk: posts the ante 400
ferbs2: posts small blind 1000
TRUE_KASPER: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jamyhawk [5c 5d]
jamyhawk: raises 4000 to 6000
ferbs2: raises 12000 to 18000

What do you do?

4 comments:

Mike Heffner said...

Assuming BB folds (you don't say) I think you have to flat and play poker postflop. Clicking it back or jamming seems like a bad idea, and raise/folding would make me sick.

You'd have a 50BB stack in position when the flop comes. That's not a bad place to be. Bad players get hands too.

Hammer Player a.k.a Hoyazo said...

Flatting almost 20% of your stack with pocket 5s? I can't support that kind of reckless preflop spewage. As frustrating as it is, I think your best move is clearly fold, followed by a big gap and then push and hope to be racing. Then there is another very large gap I think before flat calling the reraise preflop there.

Flat calling that preflop reraise is not defensible I don't think. If you like 55 3-handed, then you push here and take your chances. But how do you just call off 18% of your stack and then fold to almost any bet on almost any flop given how bad 55 plays once the flop is out?

I call Heffmike out on the advice to flat-call here. What am I missing?

Easy decision, Jamy. You fold -- just like Jordan's You Decide post this week with his pocket 7s -- and you live to fight another day with only losing 6k of your 123k stack.

Mike Heffner said...

We have a pocket pair three handed with position and are still fairly deep.

We can easily have the best hand.

Flatting the reraise should look strong and will likely freeze the action on a lot of flops.

I'd like to see a flop. I don't think you need a 5xx flop to win the hand.

If we fail at everything and fold the flop, we still have 50BB and are even with the third place stack.

If we're raise/folding 55, then our cards don't even matter here and it just becomes a question of "can you outplay the villain postflop?"

I may even do this IRL with almost any two cards, from rags to monsters, just to see what happens and get a feel for the villain.

It's really just a matter of approach and style. Folding isn't awful, it's certainly a lot better than making it 35-40K or jamming.

Conventional wisdom says don't flat raises in spots like these. I don't always follow it.

If only there was a way or place where you could evaluate a player's approach and results over years of MTTs and SnGs and see how they do over the long run...

tyroneman05 said...

He is piss poor, so his re-raise stinks, he has two overcards ranging from KJ upwards with no pair. Call his bet and if the flop is low jam all your chips in the middle and he is calling hoping to hit his pair on the turn and river. He's misses completely and you are the man.